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Anton
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Poker Rules Reply with quote

In case anyone is interested The Official Rules of Poker, including most common variations, are now available on the main Poker Queens site at

http://pokerqueens.co.uk/rules/

I am also working on a glossary at

http://pokerqueens.co.uk/glossary.html

Not many entries yet though.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a good glossary here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_jargon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should the minimum raise be double the minimum bet / big blind (except where a player doesn't have sufficient chips)?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit that is what I thought from watching poker on TV.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that i'm likely to be there for a while, but could we clarify the betting & blind procedure when it gets down tot he last 2 players?
Am I right in thinking things change slightly when we're down to the last two.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dealer is the small blind and acts first before the flop. The non-dealer is big blind and acts first on all subsequent betting rounds.

Now! As far as raises are concerned... Do you have to raise in multiples of the BB or just a minimum of the BB...?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I got my coat before you.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watch a PokerStars tourney on Eurosport t'other night, where the dealer dealt the flop cards one-at-a-time. Which was nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that called a Drip-drip-drip?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The House of Cards trilogy was a flop when shown all at once, and any future episodes will be shown one at a time. However, a surprise fourth instalment did not only make viewers' head turn, but their stomachs too. And a final episode, entitled 'Suicide' King of Hearts, caused controversy when Enoch Powell was allowed to do that speech again.[/i]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who's interested, there's loads of handy "Tips from the Pros" here: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/proLessons.php

And some info about them: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/ourTeam.php
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read the rules, but am still unsure what we shoul've done in this instance:

I was playing a game on Saturday night (10 people, £5 buy in).

In one hand, after the first round of betting there were 4 people left in, the dealer then proceeded to give us the flop.
Burnt one card, and flopped 3.
However, in doing so, there turned out to be 1 card in the deck that was the wrong way round, and everyone could see this (It was a King).

I'm not sure the position of this card, it wasn't any part of the first 3, it could possibly have been the turn card (ie the the second card in the deck after the flop), but then again it could've been somewhere in the middle of the deck, and not destined to play a part in this hand at all.

Everyone saw it, and was wondering what we do.

I said we have to declare this card to everyone and remove it from the deck. - I think this is wrong.

Anyone know what the 'official' ruling is on this error.

Do we re-deal the whole hand again?
Do we declare the card to everyone, then pop in into the remaining deck and re-shuffle it, then play on?
If it was indeed the second card in the deck, and destined to be the turn card, would be still play on and use it as the turn?

There was a bit of a dispute at the end of this hand as apparently one of the players had a King in their hand and was a bit pissed off with the exposed King being out of play.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisL wrote:
I said we have to declare this card to everyone and remove it from the deck. - I think this is wrong.



You were absolutely right.

From Roberts Rules Section 3 Rule 7

"A card discovered faceup in the deck (boxed card) will be treated as a meaningless scrap of paper. A card being treated as a scrap of paper will be replaced by the next card below it in the deck, except when the next card has already been dealt facedown to another player and mixed in with other downcards. In that case, the card that was faceup in the deck will be replaced after all other cards are dealt for that round. "

So the king is shown to all and doesn't play in that hand. This is unfortunate for the person with the king in his hand but that's the way it is.

How did you get on in the game?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool,
Well that's a bit of a relief, though i'm not sure the rule makes it any clearer.
What are the instances when you have to re-shuffle the deck halfway through a hand?

It was a pretty good night (at Shanes) with one newbie. It's the biggest cash game i've played in (not including Gutshot).
10 players at £5 each, with 4 re-buys in the first session.
So the cash pot was £70, split 70/30%

Shane took early chip lead, and pretty much dominated throughout (he had the nuts in the first 3 hands).

I've played against a couple of the other folk before, and find it quite difficult as they often don't play with any reason in mind. So I was wary going into any big pots with them as quite often they'll bet all the way to the river and just get lucky.

So I won the hands I should've won, and chucked the ones I had no chance with. I got lucky when I was big blind holding 4 7 unsuited, as the flop came up with a couple of 4s. This won me quite a big pot.

So in the end it was down to me & Shane, with shane holding about 65-70% of the chips.

I think we only played 2 hands, and I made 2 mistakes.

The first I was big blind, holding somthing like Q 7 (unsuited).
Shane was small blind, called and we flopped K Q 10
I can't remember how the betting went, but we bet all the way to the river.
Turn card was A
River card was K
After the river, Shane forced me to go all in. I had already committed about 3/4 of my chips in this hand.
Unfortunately, I had convinced myself that Shane had either a K or a J, so folded, with the reasoning that i'd still be in the game.
Afterwards, he showed me he only had a Q and we would have split the pot.

The next hand I was small blind and was dealt a pair of Kings!
Yippee, I though. At least I could double up in this hand.
I wanted to extract as much money as possible in this hand, so didn't scare him off with a pre-flop raise. I just called.
We flopped something like 3,5,9.
Shane went all in, which of course I called.
He was holding 3 5, and eventually beat my KK with 2 pair.

Game Over.

Still, I won £20 as runner up, so not all bad, but would've loved a few more hands to fight over the £50.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In last Sundays game, there were a couple of scenarios that came up where I know an official ruling exists, but we don't bother with.

I though it'd be worth posting for everyones beneift, and if we're all agreed, we could adopt for future games.

1) This one's not so bad, but nice to know:

If two or more hands tie, an odd chip will be awarded as follows:

In a button game, the first hand clockwise from the button gets the odd chip.

(This happened when we had a split pot, with 5 chips unable to be split)

So in future, that odd chip goes to the first hand clockwise from the button!


2) This one, I think we should adopt to (as several folk benefited from not playing this):
If a player is eliminated after it was his Small Blind, then the button (dealer) moves to his empty position and the person who just dealt deals for the eliminated player (phantom player/dead seat). The other players post Small and Big Blinds as usual. If a player is eliminated after it was his Big Blind, the Small Blind position is considered "dead" and only the Big Blind is posted for this hand. Following this hand the 'previous' dead small blind position will become a phantom dealer with blind structures returning to normal).

At pokerqueens, we've been playing that if you're due for the big blind and the person to your right gets knocked out, you 'skip' the big blind.
This gives the player a huge advantage when playing later in the game when the blinds are high.

So, what do we think?
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